Montie's BRG Roller Gun


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Montie Ho Sing, of Sydney, Australia built some rollerguns independently of me. Like me, he used a Rob Allen aluminium rail barrel. He used the original Rob Allen handle and modified the Rob Allen muzzle. I love his muzzle, it is a very neat solution for catching the rubber. He has some other neat tricks too! Below, Montie describes his rollergun design:

- Niko




BRG Nozzle

I am essentially a novice spearfisherman. As a novice, I have found guns of 110 cm and longer difficult to load and manoeuvre. I set out to make a gun that was an optimum between agility, power and accuracy. So far, I have found that a Rollergun of 80cm barrel / 120 cm x 7mm spear / 20 mm rubber is a very good all rounder and has about the equivalent power of a 120 cm conventional gun. The picture above shows rollerguns of 80cm and 120cm.


These pictures show the pulley arrangement on the muzzle. I milled a 12mm slot across the length of the bottom of the muzzle and used a piece of aluminium flat bar in the slot to support the spindle for the pulleys. The spindle is 10 mm stainless tube and the flat bar has been drilled out to save weight. The bores through which the rubber travels have been reamed out to 16mm to accommodate 20 mm rubber.

The pulleys allow for the bridle to stroke along the entire length of the barrel, thereby making almost the entire length of the gun active.

I have found that when speargun rubbers are stretched taught, the force that they exert is very non linear. If the rubber is "overstretched" even by a small amount, the final few centimeters of that stretch becomes very stiff. If the gun is set up this way, then this "stiff portion of the stroke cause excessive recoil and the gun shoots high.

The pulley arrangement and the point at which the rubbers are secured along the barrel allow for very easy set up to get a good "Linear Stroke". I believe that a further possible point of development is to have an easily adjustable anchor point, that slides. In this way set up can be both for linearity to accommodate variances in rubber quality, but also to vary power.

The bores in the muzzle for the rubber are smaller than the unstretched diameter of the rubber. In this case, 16mm bore, 20mm rubber. When fully stretched, the rubber is much thinner, travels through the bores and around the pulleys for at least 90 % of the stroke. Towards the end of the stroke, the bores restrict the rubbers and slow them down, the slightly larger diameter of the rubber at the bridle ties, prevent the bridle assembly and ends of the rubbers from pulling completely through the muzzle. - I would like to find the optimum bore sizes for both 16mm and 20 mm rubbers - at present, I cannot experiment too much because I do not have unbored muzzle castings, nor can I bore the muzzles out to more than 16mm. Furthermore, if I can make the bore adjustable, then this is another way to have a variable power gun.


I have attached lead ball sinkers to torpedo swivels to make up a "Quick Change" bridle. This allows us to use 2mm Kevlar reinforced braid which sells for 50c a metre from yacht shops. It is as strong as cable, much less abrasive to the plating on the spear, friendlier to the hands and only takes seconds to change when worn.




Pig Tail Clip

Instead of attaching the spear's mono to the muzzle, it is attached via a short "shock cord " swivel and a pig tail clip. Elasticity allows the mono to be easily wound / tensioned between muzzle and the grip. If a fish is difficult to thread past the flopper then the mono can be easily detached and pulled through. The swivel prevents the fish from "winding up" the mono.



Hook & Cleat Loading

I have also made a 130 cm open water pulley gun which strokes 120cm and is probably the equivalent of a 160/170 cm gun. I have had to devise a method of loading the gun, since it is impossible to reach the rubber. At first I tried the conventional T bar hooks, but still found it awkward.


These pictures show a way that I have found which uses a small hook. It is made of 4mm stainless rod, is approx only 7 cm long and only weighs a few grams. The looped end of the hook is threaded through the float line and is prevented from slipping along the entire line by a knot in the line. The hook is free to slide on that section of the float line between the shark clip on the grip and the knot.- approx 140 cm between knot and shark clip.


A small rope cleat is attached to the side of the barrel about 30cm from the grip. (For more on cleats, see ClamCleat - Niko) The hook is placed over the bridle, the one end of the line is already attached to the grip via the shark clip and the other end is now free to be pulled through the cleat. The hook's looped end acts as a pulley and reduces the effort to stretch the rubber by half, the cleat prevents the rope from sliding back.


This arrangement allows for the ability to hold the rubber to be held in a "half cocked " position while the butt of the gun can be comfortably positioned on the chest pad. Both arms and hands are free to grab the rubber and fully load the bridle into the spear notch.

I have forgotten to mention that I fill the barrels of the guns with polyurethane foam. I have had to do so since with all this mucking about the barrels have been drilled full of holes! In doing so I have found that the foam does contribute to sound deadening.




Drop Tip

In recent months, I have been frustrated by slightly bent spears so I have made up a drop tip. This tip differs from ones that are currently available here and uses the same type of flopper arrangement found on standard Rob Allen spears. I have found that the drop tips that are available locally very bulky and make penetration difficult. The tips are also machined to fit for a loose fit to allow for easy disengagement, unfortunately, this loose fit causes the spear to loose accuracy.


The drop tip that I have made use a stainless tube that fits onto you standard 7mm spear with the flopper removed. The tube is machined to fit tightly over the end of the spear. A hole is drilled into the side of the tube to align with the flopper hole and fixed in place with a flopper rivet.

The other end use a sawn off end of a conventional flopper spear. The end that fits into the tube engages into the tube for 40mm and is machined to have 3 bearing surfaces. The sections between the bearing surfaces have been recessed to 6mm diameter to prevent jamming from corrosion. The bearing surface are a slide fit and the quality of fit is augmented by incorporating two small o rings into the bearing surfaces. Two flats are machined onto the end of the drop tip to allow for a 1.6 mm stainless cable to be attached. I have found that the quality of fit of this arrangement is very good and does not sacrifice accuracy, the tri cut front end is very good for penetration.

- Montie Ho Sing


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